tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post6659366105841064614..comments2023-09-11T02:19:35.098-07:00Comments on Gravsports: Quick Review Notes on the Spot 2 and Spot ConnectUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-60528341660720895822011-10-23T18:38:06.343-07:002011-10-23T18:38:06.343-07:00THANK YOU. Great discussion. I have been wondering...THANK YOU. Great discussion. I have been wondering whether the Spot Connect was actually going BACKWARDS. Now you'd have 2 devices to worry about, just for the sake of...being able to post to Twitter? Or send a "custom message"? I'll stick with my original model, thanks. Still works just fine. Well, - except in Hawaii :-(ccoopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-19274803028151971262011-09-11T13:48:54.198-07:002011-09-11T13:48:54.198-07:00I have the Spot 1 and have been thinking about upg...I have the Spot 1 and have been thinking about upgrading to the Spot 2 but with everything I've heard about the Spot 2 the only advantage I'd have over switching to a Spot 2 would be the reduction in weight. The Spot 1 is absolutely amazing! I've accidentally left it on for a week and a half sitting in a puddle of water inside my kayak and it still works! (It smells a little funky now though...). I tried out the 'check-in' function when I was at McMurdo Station, Antarctica and the satellite picked it up way down there. I even used the SOS function in SW Utah for a injured hiker I found and saw the first SAR responder within 45 minutes. Maybe the issuse with the Spot 2 are individual unit issues but I'm definitely sticking by the Spot name and products. The only time I see myself using the Spot connect would be if I brought it along with my Spot 1...but unless I'm sponsored by someone (which I don't see ever happening) I see no reason to carry both <i>and</i> a smart phone...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14202672861728590567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-67704056148753980942011-09-08T06:48:36.309-07:002011-09-08T06:48:36.309-07:00@Unknown: I had the same problem with my Spot2 (t...@Unknown: I had the same problem with my Spot2 (the email light would go on but the Ok message would not be received). So I called up customer service. It took me 3 calls to get someone who knew what the problem was! VERY BAD CUSTERMER SERVICE! The problem is "user error." Buried in the manual is the instruction that the OK and custom message are on a 20 minute cycle. During that time Spot tries to send the message 3 times. I assume the idea is simple redundancy. But if you turn the unit off before the 20 minutes are complete the 1st or 2nd message may not have gone out. The email light STOPS blinking after the 20 minute cycle.<br /><br />This limitation is not an issue with the SOS function, because that function stays on until the bateries run out or the message is canceled.<br /> <br />The problem with this is that it's not intuitive. It's bad design. It requires expert knowledge - that not even all customer service reps had. But ever since I understood this I've had no problem with my messages being received.<br /><br />The other problem is that I like to send I'm okay as I hit the peak. But I may or may not want to hang out for 20 minutes. The 2nd and 3rd message are send with your current position as they should be. So you FA guys, if you need to prove you got to the summit, you need to hang out for 20 minutes until the cycle is finished.<br /><br />My problem with the Connect product is that it violates the KISS imperative. Smart phones are fragile objects with huge power requirements. They barely work in civilization.Kim Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08675514923006009060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-68641338323685619842011-09-07T18:12:50.058-07:002011-09-07T18:12:50.058-07:00The above comment was likely from Dan Howitt, who ...The above comment was likely from Dan Howitt, who spends a lot of time trashing Chad Kellog. If Dan wants to post under his real name I may let it stand, but Kellog is an actual athlete I respect. Nobody is perfect.<br /><br />Dan, real name only, and facts only, or I'll can every post.Will Gaddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296395814043276606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-70214925530077394672011-09-06T22:25:52.229-07:002011-09-06T22:25:52.229-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-5668970465180979172011-09-06T13:36:51.457-07:002011-09-06T13:36:51.457-07:00It's very good to read your insights into this...It's very good to read your insights into this. I'm a SAR volunteer, and I've been writing about how smartphones are unreliable for backcountry navigation. Putting one in your critical communications path is not a good idea, they are fragile, eat batteries, and are not waterproof. Using the bluetooth in addition to the screen would exacerbate the battery drain. <br />http://blog.oplopanax.ca/2011/05/why-you-shouldnt-use-smart-phones-for.html<br /><br />The SPOT and SPOT2 are much more rugged than a smartphone, and have a much longer battery life. It you're relying on it, make sure it's designed for the environment.<br /><br />I also wrote an article about a recent rescue where the subjects set off a PLB:<br />http://blog.oplopanax.ca/2011/08/personal-locator-beacons-from-rescuers.html<br /><br />They're not as accurate as you might think reading the manufacturer's web site. This probably depends on what model you get. I guess the problem with PLB units is that it's not possible to review them before you need them!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13431570074077670491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-30678440315173815882011-09-05T10:08:25.780-07:002011-09-05T10:08:25.780-07:00Dead on. I bought a Connect last week and as a lo...Dead on. I bought a Connect last week and as a long time SPOT user, those missing 2 buttons make it useless. Who wants to have to pull a phone out of your pack just to turn on tracking?Rob Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12728373268722051105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-74485240736067993032011-09-02T06:40:21.392-07:002011-09-02T06:40:21.392-07:00I have a Spot Connect paired with the Delorme GPS....I have a Spot Connect paired with the Delorme GPS. While I agree that having all the buttons on the Spot unit would be a good idea, and I have also had problems getting the Spot app on my Droid to work, I have found the bluetooth pairing to the Delorme GPS unit to be reliable. Only problem is that both units tend to burn through a lot of batteries.skiyak777https://www.blogger.com/profile/00731685620287171922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-66400071349263258622011-09-01T21:53:04.100-07:002011-09-01T21:53:04.100-07:00Not much to add except that I completely agree. I&...Not much to add except that I completely agree. I've owned a Spot 1 and now a Spot 2 and am stoked on 'em. Great for remote helo retrievals where we used an expensive sat phone in the past. Sure, the outgoing custom texts of the Spot connect are cool. And smart phones should add a lot to future products as they are fairly powerful small computers. But it makes no sense to me to remove the spot 2 buttons from the spot connect. We get a sense that they thought about this a little by keeping the SOS button physical. I would much rather have a larger form factor with all the physical buttons than a brick/SOS when my phone dies.DaveBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-81014819660760513712011-09-01T20:26:37.397-07:002011-09-01T20:26:37.397-07:00Will, have you compared the reliability of the Spo...Will, have you compared the reliability of the Spot to the PLBs (Personal Locator Beacons)? <br /><br />About a year ago I did some research on satellite based rescue devises and found that the reports were of much higher reliability with the PLBs over the Spot (as low as 80% tracking! ouch). I'm curious if that's changed. Also, the PLBs have no yearly $ fee associated.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17955426802646222948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-62584127748778152072011-09-01T13:22:47.628-07:002011-09-01T13:22:47.628-07:00I have the Spot 2 and while the concept is really ...I have the Spot 2 and while the concept is really cool, the implementation has been a bit hit or miss. The tracking reports your position every 10 minutes which is awesome. My mother enjoyed watching our progress on our last backcountry trip. The tracking isn't covered in the basic service plan though. You have to pay a little extra to have it. My main gripe with the device is its reliablity. It often has a really tough time getting reception and frequently reports that an "OK" message was sent when none was actually sent. I'd be fine with not being able to send a message but it really bothers me when the light says the message was sent but it wasn't. It's not a huge deal if the "OK" message doesn't get out but if the same thing were to happen with an "SOS" the consequences would likely be more severe. All that said, it's still better than nothing when far out of cell range.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07235790994324633045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14697721.post-77703421375251943172011-09-01T13:09:04.543-07:002011-09-01T13:09:04.543-07:00I went through this same decision-making process r...I went through this same decision-making process right when the Connect came out, and I ended up keeping my Spot 2. But I've been eager to check out the DeLorme InReach, which looks like it'll address all of the Spot 2 limitations--and add incoming texting as well. With your high-profile status, maybe you can get them to send you a test unit for review?<br />http://blog.delorme.com/2011/06/03/delorme-inreach-two-way-satellite-communication/Toby Gaddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12143646182138242043noreply@blogger.com